JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — The Skyway may be on its way to becoming the "Ultimate Urban Circulator."
The Jacksonville Transportation Authority has unveiled their recommendation that followed more than a year of investigating how to modernize the Skyway. Not only do they want to see the system move to autonomous vehicles, but expand to new areas as well.
“We want to create a bold vision, I think the city deserves it,” said JTA CEO Nathaniel Ford.
JTA weighed several options, including only upgrading the vehicles, also upgrading the infrastructure, or switching to the autonomous vehicles.
Those who have been involved in the study recommended the latter for a number of reasons, including that the shorter life span of the vehicles allows for more flexibility with emerging technology, the vehicles can scale up for large capacity events, and they can move quickly and also operate at the ground level.
“This is kind of the wave of technology that’s going to consume transportation in the coming decades,” said JTA Vice President of Planning, Development, and Innovation Brad Thoburn.
Expanding areas that the Skyway serves is also seen as critical for the future of the system and to meet the needs of the City, because Ford said the current system doesn’t give enough connectivity to emerging areas.
“We have to think about the future. We’re talking about building infrastructure that needs to be in place for the citizens who are coming to our city thirty, forty, fifty years from now,” he said.
JTA wants to make sure people can live, work, and access entertainment in those areas without needing to wonder about transportation.
The first recommended step is to extend service in to the Brooklyn area, which would ultimately be a stepping stone for Riverside and Five Points. The JTA also wants new service to the Sports Complex, in more of the Southbank, and up to UF Health Jacksonville.
The proposal even envisions adding a new circulator/pedestrian bridge connecting the Southbank and the Sports Complex, creating a loop in the service. While that’s not on the map of the recommendation, it is something JTA said they continue to study because they learned from other systems, like the one in Miami, that a loop could be a great asset.
“As an agency, we think it’s really a great value to Downtown in creating that pedestrian and transit loop around really what is the heart of the city and region,” Thoburn said.
Existing infrastructure would be incorporated in to the new system, with modifications to accommodate the new vehicles. Some of the expansions are proposed to go down to the ground level in areas where an elevated track would be difficult to put in.
Board members immediately had questions, including how this proposal connects with other transit projects. They also wanted more insight on the cost of this type of overhaul, and they were not given a direct answer at this time. Ford said that’s largely because the technology is still emerging, so they don’t have an accurate grasp of cost, but they will work up a range so the Board can consider some of the options.
“We are not limiting ourselves with that question of cost. Let’s develop the plan, let’s examine what are our opportunities versus what are our limitations,” he said.
The proposal did say that full upgrades and an expansion like this would likely be eligible for state and federal funding, and that JTA would seek public/private partnerships as well.
There’s also no set timeline for when the work could begin or how long it would take to complete, but Ford said it’s something that can’t wait.
“The existing Skyway will be obsolete -- difficult, if not impossible to maintain in another five years,” Ford said.
And if you’re skeptical JTA can actually achieve a vision like this, Ford said you can look at the Bus Rapid Transit program they’ve been rolling out and other major projects to show JTA has a track record and is ready to deliver.
The Board will spend the coming weeks vetting this proposal, and is expected to vote on whether to move forward during their January Board meeting.
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FOLLOW TWEETS FROM STEPHANIE BROWN FROM THE MEETING:
I'm at @JTAFLA for a Board Workshop updating the Skyway Modernization Program. Details coming soon. pic.twitter.com/YZyR2ko7aA
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
Here's the broad look at what's being presented at JTA Skyway Modernization Program update pic.twitter.com/qd0UnCe9Gq
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
JTA CEO Nat Ford says they've been looking at systems around the world over the last year as part of Skyway Modernization.
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
Ford- what we have is obsolete and what we need to plan for is the future. What are the emerging technologies.
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
Ford- we're calling this the Skyway, but what we're going to propose is much different.
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
JTA says they will lay out their recommendation today, but they're planning another public forum (for January) before vote.
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
JTA VP of Planning Brad Thoburn is leading the rollout of this update.
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
JTA looked at systems in Miami, Orlando, West Virginia, Charlotte, and others as part of modernization planning.
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
Thoburn- Miami was especially enlightening, see benefit of loop system, high frequency, connect to other transpo options.
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
Thoburn- feedback from partner agencies included the desire for broad reach, access to areas where raised system is difficult
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
The "ultimate urban circulator" would use existing investment, have high freq, connect residential/work/retail/entertainment, per JTA
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
Key attributes for modern system- accessible, high capacity, fast, flexible, frequent, etc
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
JTA- emerging areas are just outside of our current system. We need to reach new areas. pic.twitter.com/llKDpvkrlQ
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
What's not on this map is also a possible connection from Southbank to Sports Complex to create a loop (like Miami system) https://t.co/nBnFNwJo8o
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
Thoburn- considering converting system from the beam (left) to running pads (right) pic.twitter.com/DhJ06ArQ87
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
JTA wants to look at better using area under the Skyway to make an inviting corridor
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
One thing being considered, getting new but similar vehicles. projected cost med-high, lots of limitations.
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
Second- new vehicle, new system. Need modifications, service disruption, highest cost, expensive extensions.
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
Third option- autonomous vehicle. Unclear service life, disruption in service, modifications needed, cost is variable.
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
Autonomous vehicles are projected to have a shorter life, but JTA doesn't see that as obstacle bc tech is continually emerging.
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
Skyay Modernization Plan is recommending autonomous vehicles- operational flexibility, high frequency, rapidly developing
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
JTA- rehabbing system has limited funding options, whereas new vehicle could get state $, system expansion could get state and federal $
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
JTA will also look at public/private partnership, not just to help with funding but also sharing the risk
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
Phase 1a would be Brooklyn, as stepping stone to Riverside/Five Points pic.twitter.com/t2d8L2I0vy
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
"Thinking big", there's a new river crossing that's being considered Sports Complex to Southbank pic.twitter.com/YKgWNEI6R3
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
The Skyway Modernization Program has a new name- Ultimate Urban Circulator pic.twitter.com/lQcrBoCg9a
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
Ford noted that this proposal was based on what people would want and where JTA wants to move in the future, not cost constraints.
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
This proposal includes bringing the system to the ground level in some areas, not all elevated.
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
Ford- "scalability" of a system like this is important. The vehicles are small, but can scale up for peak events.
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
Board member asking for more details about cost. Thoburn says they are working on a "range" which will have a high level of contingency
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
I asked JTA CEO Nat Ford if he's concerned about what the price tag on a project like this will be. He says it's needed. pic.twitter.com/vTh2E6FsFZ
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
DEVELOPING: JTA says Skyway will soon be obsolete. Here's what they want to do about that https://t.co/OjfPtKGoJe @WOKVNews @ActionNewsJax pic.twitter.com/gy6PjtjuIr
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
I asked JTA VP of Planning Brad Thoburn how committed they are to the Southbank to Sports Complex circulator/pedestrian bridge... pic.twitter.com/9EVDdpDhl8
— Stephanie Brown (@SBrownReports) December 8, 2016
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